Slowhand
08-16 01:57 PM
People who left employer early or want to leave early will say it is ok; because it suits their needs.
People who plan on staying later or don't have any intention of leaving early will say to stay.
Bottom line is it is upto everyones own risk tolerance. I have just seen some of the biggest cowards in terms of immigration all of a sudden get so brave after they got the greencard.
If people are waiting years and playing it safe then what is the possible harm to wait a little longer and not get riled up by every small story of someone who got questioned at citizenship time, etc.
Immigration laws don't change very often; however, uscis interpretations and memos do change quite frequently. When you have to start hiring lawyers, go to court, face uncertainty then we'll see how brave people are.
As I see it, hiring a lawyer is still cheaper than losing 20K per year because you are working for a exploitative consulting company. But if the company is treating you well, there is no reason to leave.
People who plan on staying later or don't have any intention of leaving early will say to stay.
Bottom line is it is upto everyones own risk tolerance. I have just seen some of the biggest cowards in terms of immigration all of a sudden get so brave after they got the greencard.
If people are waiting years and playing it safe then what is the possible harm to wait a little longer and not get riled up by every small story of someone who got questioned at citizenship time, etc.
Immigration laws don't change very often; however, uscis interpretations and memos do change quite frequently. When you have to start hiring lawyers, go to court, face uncertainty then we'll see how brave people are.
As I see it, hiring a lawyer is still cheaper than losing 20K per year because you are working for a exploitative consulting company. But if the company is treating you well, there is no reason to leave.
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mantagon
04-02 02:44 PM
Thank you so much mantagon. A ray of hope in between such stupid posts.
God bless you.
Thanks for leading this effort.
God bless you.
Thanks for leading this effort.
srikondoji
03-19 01:07 PM
There are way too many problems infront of Fed Chairman.
1) Asking people not to walk out of homes and pay up their loans
2) Making the wall street firms like Lehmen, bear sterns run their businesses as usual.
3) Contain the inflation so that long term interest rates are lowered.
4) Come out clean if the US policy is shifting towards Weak dollar or going back to string dollar policy. Either way US and world over have to face gyrations in near term.
There is blood on everybody's hands for the mess we are in.
1) Japan for too long provided the world with cheap loans (~1%).
This money not only found its way to corprate India but also into US
Housing markets.
2) Americans spent money much much more they earn or worthy off.
3) Globalization created another affect (Read Alan greenspan's 'economic conundrum' theory). Google it, you will find plenty of articles.
4) China for too long manipulated their currency and provided the world cheap goods.
5) Oil exporting countries didn't utilize the profits in developing their countries and economies. Instead they started buying aasets all over the world causing unsustainable price levels in asets.
6) Indian software industry far too long booked profits without developing/diversifying into enterprise strength products and remained fixated on their business models. Software sector is staring clueless and is unprepared for the fallout of outsourcing industry. Pink Slip culture is on the rise.
How do we come out of this financial mess in US?
There is no easy solution.
10,000 people buying homes will not help this economy. On contrary, 10,000 people not buying homes will help.
1) Asking people not to walk out of homes and pay up their loans
2) Making the wall street firms like Lehmen, bear sterns run their businesses as usual.
3) Contain the inflation so that long term interest rates are lowered.
4) Come out clean if the US policy is shifting towards Weak dollar or going back to string dollar policy. Either way US and world over have to face gyrations in near term.
There is blood on everybody's hands for the mess we are in.
1) Japan for too long provided the world with cheap loans (~1%).
This money not only found its way to corprate India but also into US
Housing markets.
2) Americans spent money much much more they earn or worthy off.
3) Globalization created another affect (Read Alan greenspan's 'economic conundrum' theory). Google it, you will find plenty of articles.
4) China for too long manipulated their currency and provided the world cheap goods.
5) Oil exporting countries didn't utilize the profits in developing their countries and economies. Instead they started buying aasets all over the world causing unsustainable price levels in asets.
6) Indian software industry far too long booked profits without developing/diversifying into enterprise strength products and remained fixated on their business models. Software sector is staring clueless and is unprepared for the fallout of outsourcing industry. Pink Slip culture is on the rise.
How do we come out of this financial mess in US?
There is no easy solution.
10,000 people buying homes will not help this economy. On contrary, 10,000 people not buying homes will help.
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vijayfx35
03-01 12:56 PM
Ok, just put in my contribution, for now.
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singhsa3
08-13 06:59 PM
Please feel free to comment or correct any facts.
Fact Sheet: Who's Looking Out for You?
Green Card Visa Numbers Situation
� The GC process involves Labor Certification (2-3 months) + I-140 (0-12 Months) + Wait for priority dates to become current (several years) + security checks (1 month to 2 years) + I-485 processing once priority dates become current (18 months to 3 years).
� Yearly green cards quota for employment based applicants is 140,000. This includes visas for spouses and children. So on an average; it is given to ~ 60,000 families.
� Country visas limit is 7%, with almost equal distribution for EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 plus any unused visas from other countries. Generally speaking, for countries like India, approximately 7000 visas (~3000 families) were being issued every year in each of these categories.
� It is estimated that approximately 500K+ (yes 500K) I-485 applications under skilled worker category were filed between July 2nd and August 17th 2007. Most of these applications were from people of India and China.
� Employment Based Immigration reforms do not find enough support on the senate floors (Failure of SKIL, STEM etc Bills). As a matter of fact, it does not even get enough support to make it debatable, let alone final voting on the bills.
� USCIS is a self-funded organization i.e. it is run on fees it receives and is short on resources.
What do these jargons mean?
� Priority dates will remain retrogressed for several years.
� Those who could not file their I-485 now will now have to waitttttt�..
� Due to resource constraints, security checks may take years.
� Once PD becomes current, it takes on an average 1 year to 3 years to get approval.
� Endless cycle of EAD renewals and Advance paroles.
� For any reason, if any of your EAD gets rejected, you will need to stop working, In other words, need to leave your job.
� You need to be in the same position with same job responsibilities for an indefinite time period otherwise you Green Card application will be rejected.
� EADs are valid for one year and several employers (and rightly so) view it as a temporary permit and hence reluctant to hire you.
� Once PD becomes current, it takes on an average 1 year to 3 years to get approval.
� So virtually you have three options: a) Struggle for several years b) Leave the USA c) Join us.
Fact Sheet: Who's Looking Out for You?
Green Card Visa Numbers Situation
� The GC process involves Labor Certification (2-3 months) + I-140 (0-12 Months) + Wait for priority dates to become current (several years) + security checks (1 month to 2 years) + I-485 processing once priority dates become current (18 months to 3 years).
� Yearly green cards quota for employment based applicants is 140,000. This includes visas for spouses and children. So on an average; it is given to ~ 60,000 families.
� Country visas limit is 7%, with almost equal distribution for EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 plus any unused visas from other countries. Generally speaking, for countries like India, approximately 7000 visas (~3000 families) were being issued every year in each of these categories.
� It is estimated that approximately 500K+ (yes 500K) I-485 applications under skilled worker category were filed between July 2nd and August 17th 2007. Most of these applications were from people of India and China.
� Employment Based Immigration reforms do not find enough support on the senate floors (Failure of SKIL, STEM etc Bills). As a matter of fact, it does not even get enough support to make it debatable, let alone final voting on the bills.
� USCIS is a self-funded organization i.e. it is run on fees it receives and is short on resources.
What do these jargons mean?
� Priority dates will remain retrogressed for several years.
� Those who could not file their I-485 now will now have to waitttttt�..
� Due to resource constraints, security checks may take years.
� Once PD becomes current, it takes on an average 1 year to 3 years to get approval.
� Endless cycle of EAD renewals and Advance paroles.
� For any reason, if any of your EAD gets rejected, you will need to stop working, In other words, need to leave your job.
� You need to be in the same position with same job responsibilities for an indefinite time period otherwise you Green Card application will be rejected.
� EADs are valid for one year and several employers (and rightly so) view it as a temporary permit and hence reluctant to hire you.
� Once PD becomes current, it takes on an average 1 year to 3 years to get approval.
� So virtually you have three options: a) Struggle for several years b) Leave the USA c) Join us.
unitednations
08-16 09:16 PM
I do, but I don't get all the answers.
Didn't think about that. but... why would officer ask "do you work for the sponsoring employer"? Isn't your GC same as family based, asylum, etc. green cards? Does officer even have that information right away? What do they ask usually?
I don't see the difference between being laid off and leaving yourself. In case of being laid off, your employer has to show intent of employing you forever. If any document will surface, that he had plans to lay you off before applying for I-140 or without you invoking AC21 at moment of AOS, then you are in the same trouble.
These issues are raised not to start freaking out, but just to know them and not to do some silly things.
In general... take this philosophically - it never ends. If not immigration, then something else will always be. Just know the law, keep your paperwork in order, don't talk to government employees without a lawyer, flex your mind, and do your thing.
There is a category code on the greencard. Each category code tells POE officer how one got the greencard.
Didn't think about that. but... why would officer ask "do you work for the sponsoring employer"? Isn't your GC same as family based, asylum, etc. green cards? Does officer even have that information right away? What do they ask usually?
I don't see the difference between being laid off and leaving yourself. In case of being laid off, your employer has to show intent of employing you forever. If any document will surface, that he had plans to lay you off before applying for I-140 or without you invoking AC21 at moment of AOS, then you are in the same trouble.
These issues are raised not to start freaking out, but just to know them and not to do some silly things.
In general... take this philosophically - it never ends. If not immigration, then something else will always be. Just know the law, keep your paperwork in order, don't talk to government employees without a lawyer, flex your mind, and do your thing.
There is a category code on the greencard. Each category code tells POE officer how one got the greencard.
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alkg
03-11 12:59 PM
Everyone try to concentrate on how to save your jobs, instead of waisting time in predicting stupid things...."Visa Bulletins"
In any case the dates are not going to move further, after seeing the last months trend ...
Wait for your kids to sponser your GC's
In any case the dates are not going to move further, after seeing the last months trend ...
Wait for your kids to sponser your GC's
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villamonte6100
04-11 11:31 AM
But then why do you care to monitor this thread so often? I guess there are hundred other threads that talk about immigration.
Why don't you setup "Just an Indian" forum so other nationals don't need to participate anymore.
Why don't you setup "Just an Indian" forum so other nationals don't need to participate anymore.
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gbof
08-27 11:39 AM
I checked with some folks who have got GCs in the past and they mentioned that FP (2nd time ) is not needed.....unlike the minds of USCIS one's FP doesn't change over his lifetime...that said..if you apply renew EAD u can get FP notice....
But if 15 month rule of FP is correct then very few will get approved as very few have received 2nd FP notice....so I am not sure what is good or bad...we need to know if the folks who had got FP notice had recently renewed their EADs or not.
I am current next month but I rate my odds as 2/98 meaning 2% chance of getting clear.....taking into account RD/ND/transfer/FP all vagaries into account....even Indian monsoon is more predictable.
SoP
No rules are rules for uscis. Remember during the famous 07/07 VB fiasco-- Uscis came out with an explanation for reversal of initial VB as follows:
60,000 visas available were made available to approve able cases' over the weekend.. So you can expect anything from those quarters..
But if 15 month rule of FP is correct then very few will get approved as very few have received 2nd FP notice....so I am not sure what is good or bad...we need to know if the folks who had got FP notice had recently renewed their EADs or not.
I am current next month but I rate my odds as 2/98 meaning 2% chance of getting clear.....taking into account RD/ND/transfer/FP all vagaries into account....even Indian monsoon is more predictable.
SoP
No rules are rules for uscis. Remember during the famous 07/07 VB fiasco-- Uscis came out with an explanation for reversal of initial VB as follows:
60,000 visas available were made available to approve able cases' over the weekend.. So you can expect anything from those quarters..
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foobar2001
12-31 06:49 AM
AmitKhare77... apparently, the job title and job responsibilities have to be same as whats on labor until we get GC. otherwise no promotion.
Actually, I believe that if the promotion is a "natural progression of the job ladder", you can accept it. What you cannot do is change the job ladder completely to a different track.
Thus, say you filed labor when a software engineer, its ok to be promoted to "Senior Software Engineer. What is not ok is to change tracks to say "Product Manager" or a position as "Sales lead" etc...
Of course, i'm not a lawyer, but this is what i;ve been told by other folks and lawyers at my company.
Good luck!
Actually, I believe that if the promotion is a "natural progression of the job ladder", you can accept it. What you cannot do is change the job ladder completely to a different track.
Thus, say you filed labor when a software engineer, its ok to be promoted to "Senior Software Engineer. What is not ok is to change tracks to say "Product Manager" or a position as "Sales lead" etc...
Of course, i'm not a lawyer, but this is what i;ve been told by other folks and lawyers at my company.
Good luck!
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ivdude
10-02 02:34 PM
You are correct. The rules must have changed recently. I wonder what made them make that change, Now children of US citizens (who were once Indian citizens) have an advantage over children who has both parents as Indian citizens. Weird.. isn't it?
Damn..even our own Indian govt discriminates :( . Kids of parents with Indian passport are suspicious..
Damn..even our own Indian govt discriminates :( . Kids of parents with Indian passport are suspicious..
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pappu
10-11 10:33 AM
Thanks Pappu for posting it. I have been barred from creating threads ;-))
I have now PDFs (the articles in this coverage need subscription) for all of them. If someone educates me how to archive them on IV, I can do put them up. I got the pdfs via my institutional subscription. The articles are resourceful, and come with references for further research. The author, Woolridge, seems to be a good person to talk to. If someone wants the articles, email your personal email id and I will send pdfs later this evening.
-gg_ny
you can upload them with your post. there will be a paperclip icon in the interface that you can click and upload.
I have now PDFs (the articles in this coverage need subscription) for all of them. If someone educates me how to archive them on IV, I can do put them up. I got the pdfs via my institutional subscription. The articles are resourceful, and come with references for further research. The author, Woolridge, seems to be a good person to talk to. If someone wants the articles, email your personal email id and I will send pdfs later this evening.
-gg_ny
you can upload them with your post. there will be a paperclip icon in the interface that you can click and upload.
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wikipedia_fan
07-04 11:38 AM
I have been a big fan of IV and have been a visitor to IV for a while. I now plan to become a volunteer and join my state chapter and also contribute in all possible ways to IV because I think IV is the best thing to happen to this community.
Dear gurus - here is my issue and I need some real concrete help.
I was working for a New Jersey based consulting company on a percentage basis ie 80/20 and all costs towards GC and h1b were by me. I found my own projects and negotiated my own billing rate.
I worked for this company for 3 years and filed for 485 in July 2007. I am EB2 India with a priority date of March 2nd, 2006. My 140 was approved in June, 2006.
In March, 2008 my project got over and I started looking for new projects. Market conditions forced me to take up a fulltime job using my EAD and I had to move into a fulltime job.
As it is safe past 180 days, I used AC21 portability and moved.
I had been having excellent relationship with my desi employer and in fact also payed up some money to the employer because the client did not pay for last 2 months of my project and my desi employer held me responsible as it was me who negotiated with the client and said it is my issue - for which I agreed.
I already sent a AC21 letter to USCIS through my Attorney - I am not sure if my file got updated.
My desi employer wants to withdraw the 140 petition now. He says, he cannot keep 140 petitions of employees who leave the organization and not on w2 and he will have "ability to pay issue"
I have heard horror stories of USCIS issuing denials and NOID because AC21 letter never reached the file even though it was sent in time and I guess this is exactly what my desi employer thinks - teach lesson by withdrawing 140.
I spoke to my Attorney and she says "your file may not be updated but we will keep a record that we sent" useful in case we want to respond to NOID or RFE.
Folks - please post your AC21 success/horror stories when previous employer withdrew the 140 petition.
What are my options to avoid a NOID or denial
Thanks in advance
Dear gurus - here is my issue and I need some real concrete help.
I was working for a New Jersey based consulting company on a percentage basis ie 80/20 and all costs towards GC and h1b were by me. I found my own projects and negotiated my own billing rate.
I worked for this company for 3 years and filed for 485 in July 2007. I am EB2 India with a priority date of March 2nd, 2006. My 140 was approved in June, 2006.
In March, 2008 my project got over and I started looking for new projects. Market conditions forced me to take up a fulltime job using my EAD and I had to move into a fulltime job.
As it is safe past 180 days, I used AC21 portability and moved.
I had been having excellent relationship with my desi employer and in fact also payed up some money to the employer because the client did not pay for last 2 months of my project and my desi employer held me responsible as it was me who negotiated with the client and said it is my issue - for which I agreed.
I already sent a AC21 letter to USCIS through my Attorney - I am not sure if my file got updated.
My desi employer wants to withdraw the 140 petition now. He says, he cannot keep 140 petitions of employees who leave the organization and not on w2 and he will have "ability to pay issue"
I have heard horror stories of USCIS issuing denials and NOID because AC21 letter never reached the file even though it was sent in time and I guess this is exactly what my desi employer thinks - teach lesson by withdrawing 140.
I spoke to my Attorney and she says "your file may not be updated but we will keep a record that we sent" useful in case we want to respond to NOID or RFE.
Folks - please post your AC21 success/horror stories when previous employer withdrew the 140 petition.
What are my options to avoid a NOID or denial
Thanks in advance
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gc_chahiye
07-02 02:11 AM
You can find the link on the US Consulate website for Mumbai, under appointment information.
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html
here's the one for July [PDF]
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/9uRZDUAnEBKVs3LMDSI0ug/apptjuly07.pdf
yes tons of EB3s and just 2 EB2s. I guess this, and the information on trackers would make us think USCIS has cleaned up tons of EB3s from 2001-2003. I wish hey had cleaned up EB3-ROW too, so numbers from there can roll over into India...
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html
here's the one for July [PDF]
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/9uRZDUAnEBKVs3LMDSI0ug/apptjuly07.pdf
yes tons of EB3s and just 2 EB2s. I guess this, and the information on trackers would make us think USCIS has cleaned up tons of EB3s from 2001-2003. I wish hey had cleaned up EB3-ROW too, so numbers from there can roll over into India...
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pappu
08-25 03:49 PM
All of you please contact your local newspaper and TV stations and tell them about your plight. This will be a good story you should highlight and will help you and everyone else in your state.
plassey, bkr, jasmin45 since you are the people suffering, you can take the lead on this and contact local reporters. IV can help you with the interviews. Please update your profile too.
plassey, bkr, jasmin45 please post on this thread if you are willing.
plassey, bkr, jasmin45 since you are the people suffering, you can take the lead on this and contact local reporters. IV can help you with the interviews. Please update your profile too.
plassey, bkr, jasmin45 please post on this thread if you are willing.
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Gravitation
04-12 05:54 PM
I just signed up for recurring contribution of $20/month.
One-time contribution: $100
Contributed $90 towards buying online advertising for IV.
My best hope is that posting this will nudge at least one person to sign-up for monthly contributions.
If it does, please post back.
If only we had 1000 people contributing at least $20 each...
Thanks & Regards,
Gravity
One-time contribution: $100
Contributed $90 towards buying online advertising for IV.
My best hope is that posting this will nudge at least one person to sign-up for monthly contributions.
If it does, please post back.
If only we had 1000 people contributing at least $20 each...
Thanks & Regards,
Gravity
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eb3_nepa
05-11 12:12 PM
But it would be disastrous in terms of PR if even this fails. But like you, I would not hold my breath for this but am cautiously optimistic at the same time.
Also, please realize that any changes to the bill will meet absolute resistance from both sides. We will have to wait and see how many amendments are they planning on allowing.....
Ragz to be perfectly honest i know this bill is VERRRRY important to us, but this bill carries Far more problems than relief. Right now there are So many "Ifs" and "Ands" that somehow i dont see it passing or atleast not anytime soon, forget abt passing by memorial day.
If it actually DOES pass by memorial day, that day actually WILL be Memorial for us legal immigrants :) But one another note. Thanks for posting the link. I know a lot of us are writing the same thing, but that should not deter people from posting info like this on the forum.
Also, please realize that any changes to the bill will meet absolute resistance from both sides. We will have to wait and see how many amendments are they planning on allowing.....
Ragz to be perfectly honest i know this bill is VERRRRY important to us, but this bill carries Far more problems than relief. Right now there are So many "Ifs" and "Ands" that somehow i dont see it passing or atleast not anytime soon, forget abt passing by memorial day.
If it actually DOES pass by memorial day, that day actually WILL be Memorial for us legal immigrants :) But one another note. Thanks for posting the link. I know a lot of us are writing the same thing, but that should not deter people from posting info like this on the forum.
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niklshah
08-25 08:45 AM
please post the list of document required for E-file AP ?
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gc_in_30_yrs
10-30 07:48 PM
[QUOTE=gc_in_30_yrs]Can we get the copy of I-140 Approval Notice under the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)? If so, please advise the way to do it.
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Is itn't surprising? I got a letter from USCIS today! 2 1/2 months later!
It is said in the letter that this request is very complicated one, so it may take some time to work on. Once they get a handle on what to do about my request, they will start working on it. And on top of that, it is in a queue, meaning there is some backlog (you want to call it retrogress???).
i will post more information once it is available.
QUOTE]
Is itn't surprising? I got a letter from USCIS today! 2 1/2 months later!
It is said in the letter that this request is very complicated one, so it may take some time to work on. Once they get a handle on what to do about my request, they will start working on it. And on top of that, it is in a queue, meaning there is some backlog (you want to call it retrogress???).
i will post more information once it is available.
Rayyan
01-06 08:42 AM
Hello Rayyan,
Thanks for coming forward to help this cause. Your contribution, words of support and enthusiasm helps everybody to maintain higher level of motivation which is so important for this kind of volunteer effort . Thank You.
We also need more active members in Miami as it is a huge city. Would you like to take up the responsibility to post the flyers in Chinese/Indian/Philipino stores or other places where people from these or other immigrant community gathers? Or maybe simply send out emails to send the same message to your friends. It is ok if there is any constraint.
Again, Thanks for your support.
-WP
Thank you WaldenPOd. I am a pharmacist and I am always extremely bz with my work and two kids. but my wife is actively participating in this effort. She has already posted flyers in Indian store and restaurant. I will ask her to post it in Chinese and other store.
She is actively sending email to friends and relatives to join IV. Also, we are planing to visit universities around our area during this weekend and post flyers
.Let me know what else I can do.
Thank you guys for your brilliant efforts :)
Thanks for coming forward to help this cause. Your contribution, words of support and enthusiasm helps everybody to maintain higher level of motivation which is so important for this kind of volunteer effort . Thank You.
We also need more active members in Miami as it is a huge city. Would you like to take up the responsibility to post the flyers in Chinese/Indian/Philipino stores or other places where people from these or other immigrant community gathers? Or maybe simply send out emails to send the same message to your friends. It is ok if there is any constraint.
Again, Thanks for your support.
-WP
Thank you WaldenPOd. I am a pharmacist and I am always extremely bz with my work and two kids. but my wife is actively participating in this effort. She has already posted flyers in Indian store and restaurant. I will ask her to post it in Chinese and other store.
She is actively sending email to friends and relatives to join IV. Also, we are planing to visit universities around our area during this weekend and post flyers
.Let me know what else I can do.
Thank you guys for your brilliant efforts :)
xlr8r
03-15 10:35 AM
Fill out the G-639 form and take it to a notary. Have him notarize the document when you sign it in his presence. Worked for me.
Can someone share how to get Notarized affidavity of identity.
Thanks,
Can someone share how to get Notarized affidavity of identity.
Thanks,
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